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Google apps dont have access to users account & training options

A bit of background to use 1st, we have only ever used the Device Administrator to manage our company owned phones and use an Intune licence. I want to start using Android Enterprise but I've not ...
  • jasonbayton's avatar
    2 years ago

    Hi there HKP 

    For training you can take a look at the Android Enterprise academy, androidenterprise.training

    You may also benefit from the AE docs - support.google.com/work/android

     

    And if you'd like further reading, I also offer hundreds of articles on my site - bayton.org/android

     

    To your questions - 

    For fully managed devices, you'll need to start from a factory-reset state. When you configure fully managed user devices (I assume?) you'll be provided a QR code by Intune to scan. You can tap 6x on the welcome screen of all modern android devices to initiate the QR reader, and that should kick off the process.

     

    For Google, you'll need to allow users to add their Google accounts on the devices. By default Intune will provision a generic managed Google Play account that is not associated with the user directly. If you're a Google Workspace customer with advanced Android management, you'll have further options that may save you on intune licenses too.

     

    Hopefully that gets you started?

  • jasonbayton's avatar
    2 years ago

    There isn't a wallpaper API accessible to Intune. I don't have a console available to verify but I should think this is more directed at the Microsoft Managed Launcher than generic homescreen. Can you verify?

  • jasonbayton's avatar
    2 years ago

    It's a great solution for on-device customisation you wouldn't otherwise have, and behaves well for kiosk deployments as well as just offering a consistent, unified Android home experience irrespective of OS or OEM you may be deploying 🙂

  • jasonbayton's avatar
    12 months ago

    This'll go well as a standalone topic 🙂

     

    I imagine for your use case setting up conditional access policies would help here in addition to app protection policies. Conditional access is pretty aggressive in ensuring devices meet requirements frequently - at least on Android - and should help.

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A bit of background to use 1st, we have only ever used the Device Administrator to manage our company owned phones and use an Intune licence.

I want to start using Android Enterprise but I've not as yet had any training so this is all new to me.
Ideally, we want to use Fully Controlled Devices for our Company owned devices and Work Profiles for those users using their own device. Which I am sure is quite common practice.

So I have had a play and not yet got anywhere with Fully Controlled Devices but have got Work Profiles setup and working to an extent. However, one stumbling block is that the Google apps, Docs, sheets, Drive etc. show no data from the user’s account. Apps like MS Outlook work just fine.
Could someone be kind enough to point me in the right direction on this?

Also, what training sources would people recommend? We are a State Education environment, so have a very limited budget as per usual. 

Thank you

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A bit of background to use 1st, we have only ever used the Device Administrator to manage our company owned phones and use an Intune licence.

I want to start using Android Enterprise but I've not as yet had any training so this is all new to me.
Ideally, we want to use Fully Controlled Devices for our Company owned devices and Work Profiles for those users using their own device. Which I am sure is quite common practice.

So I have had a play and not yet got anywhere with Fully Controlled Devices but have got Work Profiles setup and working to an extent. However, one stumbling block is that the Google apps, Docs, sheets, Drive etc. show no data from the user’s account. Apps like MS Outlook work just fine.
Could someone be kind enough to point me in the right direction on this?

Also, what training sources would people recommend? We are a State Education environment, so have a very limited budget as per usual. 

Thank you

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Have created it's own topic (https://www.androidenterprise.community/t5/general-discussions/help-with-ios-setup/m-p/3299#M1012)

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Have created it's own topic (https://www.androidenterprise.community/t5/general-discussions/help-with-ios-setup/m-p/3299#M1012)

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Hi there HKP 

For training you can take a look at the Android Enterprise academy, androidenterprise.training

You may also benefit from the AE docs - support.google.com/work/android

 

And if you'd like further reading, I also offer hundreds of articles on my site - bayton.org/android

 

To your questions - 

For fully managed devices, you'll need to start from a factory-reset state. When you configure fully managed user devices (I assume?) you'll be provided a QR code by Intune to scan. You can tap 6x on the welcome screen of all modern android devices to initiate the QR reader, and that should kick off the process.

 

For Google, you'll need to allow users to add their Google accounts on the devices. By default Intune will provision a generic managed Google Play account that is not associated with the user directly. If you're a Google Workspace customer with advanced Android management, you'll have further options that may save you on intune licenses too.

 

Hopefully that gets you started?

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Hi there  

For training you can take a look at the Android Enterprise academy, androidenterprise.training

You may also benefit from the AE docs - support.google.com/work/android

 

And if you'd like further reading, I also offer hundreds of articles on my site - bayton.org/android

 

To your questions - 

For fully managed devices, you'll need to start from a factory-reset state. When you configure fully managed user devices (I assume?) you'll be provided a QR code by Intune to scan. You can tap 6x on the welcome screen of all modern android devices to initiate the QR reader, and that should kick off the process.

 

For Google, you'll need to allow users to add their Google accounts on the devices. By default Intune will provision a generic managed Google Play account that is not associated with the user directly. If you're a Google Workspace customer with advanced Android management, you'll have further options that may save you on intune licenses too.

 

Hopefully that gets you started?

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There isn't a wallpaper API accessible to Intune. I don't have a console available to verify but I should think this is more directed at the Microsoft Managed Launcher than generic homescreen. Can you verify?

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There isn't a wallpaper API accessible to Intune. I don't have a console available to verify but I should think this is more directed at the Microsoft Managed Launcher than generic homescreen. Can you verify?

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It's a great solution for on-device customisation you wouldn't otherwise have, and behaves well for kiosk deployments as well as just offering a consistent, unified Android home experience irrespective of OS or OEM you may be deploying 🙂

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It's a great solution for on-device customisation you wouldn't otherwise have, and behaves well for kiosk deployments as well as just offering a consistent, unified Android home experience irrespective of OS or OEM you may be deploying 🙂

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This'll go well as a standalone topic 🙂

 

I imagine for your use case setting up conditional access policies would help here in addition to app protection policies. Conditional access is pretty aggressive in ensuring devices meet requirements frequently - at least on Android - and should help.

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This'll go well as a standalone topic 🙂

 

I imagine for your use case setting up conditional access policies would help here in addition to app protection policies. Conditional access is pretty aggressive in ensuring devices meet requirements frequently - at least on Android - and should help.

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No Problem Lizzie.

In general our use case is pretty easy to describe:

Our devices are used by store staff, including store manager (and maybe deputy).

So, storemanagers ahve a seperate mail which can contain personal data so shouldn't be accessible for the other staff. So, without a dedicaded space, they won't be allowed to use it on the store devices as all other employees have access to it.

If we could provide such private space for them where they can put in outlook as a seperated app (but keeping the original one for store staff mail) and maybe other apps like teams or so secured by a psk only known by them, they could use this the devices way better.

 

There are manufacturers who provide similar functionality like Motorola with Thinkshield + secured folder but thiose are isolated to manufacturer which is not nice as we wopuld need this as a functionaliity over all devices, manufacturer independent.

 

Also want to mention, it would be good to have the possibility from admin side to remove this private space (but not to unlock it!; just in case a store manager switched or has forgotten his passcode) from the MDM (of course the MDM has to use that API and implement it as well).

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No Problem .

In general our use case is pretty easy to describe:

Our devices are used by store staff, including store manager (and maybe deputy).

So, storemanagers ahve a seperate mail which can contain personal data so shouldn't be accessible for the other staff. So, without a dedicaded space, they won't be allowed to use it on the store devices as all other employees have access to it.

If we could provide such private space for them where they can put in outlook as a seperated app (but keeping the original one for store staff mail) and maybe other apps like teams or so secured by a psk only known by them, they could use this the devices way better.

 

There are manufacturers who provide similar functionality like Motorola with Thinkshield + secured folder but thiose are isolated to manufacturer which is not nice as we wopuld need this as a functionaliity over all devices, manufacturer independent.

 

Also want to mention, it would be good to have the possibility from admin side to remove this private space (but not to unlock it!; just in case a store manager switched or has forgotten his passcode) from the MDM (of course the MDM has to use that API and implement it as well).

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