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How to manage app using Intune

I want some suggestions on how to manage applications in our workplace.    We purchased an Android app for our employees to work in the warehouse. The vendor provides two methods of getting the app...
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The vendor provides two methods of getting the app...","body@stringLength":"1458","rawBody":"

I want some suggestions on how to manage applications in our workplace. 

 

We purchased an Android app for our employees to work in the warehouse. The vendor provides two methods of getting the app to our devices. One is to download it directly from the Play Store, and the other is from the vendor's website. When something is broken, the vendor will roll back by uploading the new version of the app to the Play Store if the problem is informed on time. Sometimes, we have to go to the download site to download the previous version to solve the immediate issue due to the time zone difference. 

 

There, we want to manage the app using Intune. We want to deploy the apk directly to the device using Line Of Business. However, it only works if we enrolled devices using Device Administrator. 

 

Unfortunately, it is impossible now since Intune has stopped supporting this enrollment type. 

 

If we use the Play Stores managed private app to upload the apk, it would get an error with the package name. We do not think that the vendor will build different package names for every customer. 

So here is my question: How could we achieve something we achieved in the past and now we cannot?
Intune said it is the change that Google made due to security reasons. 

 

Any suggestion would be much appreciated!!!

 

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Thanks for the input, James!

 

I followed the official instructions here:

https://support.google.com/googleplay/work/answer/6145139?sjid=5300570129802790438-EU#zippy=%2Cpublish-to-your-own-organization

 

High-level summary of steps:

  1. Created a test dummy app with a new (unused) package name using targetSdkVersion = 29 (intentionally too old for public Play app)
  2. Created a new private app in Play Console using a dev account and shared it with 2 test organizations enterprise id's (one from Intune and one from SOTI MobiControl)
  3. Published a production release, which went super-fast.

Now I would like to see the app in the Play iframe (opened from Intune or SOTI) but I could not find it with the search (even if I searched for the exact package name, I get all kind of odd games etc.). Is there a better way to search in the iframe?

Anyway, then I went old school logged into play.google.com/work where I could put the package id in the url query, this worked, and I could approve the app and now is showed up in the play.google.com/work/licenses/apps list with status approved.

Also, now it shows up in the iframe app collection, but it does not get synced to Intune / SOTI.

I have seen something similar with private apps uploaded through the iframe namely I uploaded it and wait for it to be ready, then I need to “choose” it in the iframe before it gets synced to the MDM.

So getting close but still no cigar 🙂

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thanks for the input, James!

 

I followed the official instructions here:

https://support.google.com/googleplay/work/answer/6145139?sjid=5300570129802790438-EU#zippy=%2Cpublish-to-your-own-organization

 

High-level summary of steps:

  1. Created a test dummy app with a new (unused) package name using targetSdkVersion = 29 (intentionally too old for public Play app)
  2. Created a new private app in Play Console using a dev account and shared it with 2 test organizations enterprise id's (one from Intune and one from SOTI MobiControl)
  3. Published a production release, which went super-fast.

Now I would like to see the app in the Play iframe (opened from Intune or SOTI) but I could not find it with the search (even if I searched for the exact package name, I get all kind of odd games etc.). Is there a better way to search in the iframe?

Anyway, then I went old school logged into play.google.com/work where I could put the package id in the url query, this worked, and I could approve the app and now is showed up in the play.google.com/work/licenses/apps list with status approved.

Also, now it shows up in the iframe app collection, but it does not get synced to Intune / SOTI.

I have seen something similar with private apps uploaded through the iframe namely I uploaded it and wait for it to be ready, then I need to “choose” it in the iframe before it gets synced to the MDM.

So getting close but still no cigar 🙂

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Yes it is, and the process follows essentially what you just described. Though if you're in a situation needing to support multiple enterprise IDs, going through the Google Play console from the start and marking the app as private will give you all the benefits of private apps, without the burden of it being locked to one particular enterprise ID.

 

Marking private is under advanced settings > managed Google Play in the store listing area

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Yes it is, and the process follows essentially what you just described. Though if you're in a situation needing to support multiple enterprise IDs, going through the Google Play console from the start and marking the app as private will give you all the benefits of private apps, without the burden of it being locked to one particular enterprise ID.

 

Marking private is under advanced settings > managed Google Play in the store listing area

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Hi jasonbayton ,

It works now when searching in \"app name\", I tried that also the other day but maybe it takes a bit of time to become available in search. Anyway now I can select - thanks for the help Jason.

 

Hi King the reason I wrote in this thread is that maybe a private app could be helpfull your software vendor? Fast releases and less restrictions can be useful for enterprise apps.

It can be combined with Play release tracks for explicit version control and managed config for \"customization\". 

One old trick for rollback via Play is to re-release the previous app version with a higher versionCode. Again this could be combined with release tracks.

Anyway I agree with Jason that it should be manageable with proper release management and testing to run the \"latest\" versions of an enterprise app.

However there are options for running it with a more classically / controlled approach for enterprise apps on Play.

 

Bo Snitkjaer.

 

 

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Hi  ,

It works now when searching in \"app name\", I tried that also the other day but maybe it takes a bit of time to become available in search. Anyway now I can select - thanks for the help Jason.

 

Hi  the reason I wrote in this thread is that maybe a private app could be helpfull your software vendor? Fast releases and less restrictions can be useful for enterprise apps.

It can be combined with Play release tracks for explicit version control and managed config for \"customization\". 

One old trick for rollback via Play is to re-release the previous app version with a higher versionCode. Again this could be combined with release tracks.

Anyway I agree with Jason that it should be manageable with proper release management and testing to run the \"latest\" versions of an enterprise app.

However there are options for running it with a more classically / controlled approach for enterprise apps on Play.

 

Bo Snitkjaer.

 

 

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